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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2008, 12:59:30 am »
betul ke fully synthetic ni tk sesuai ngan enjin motor?
aku ada dgr nnt gear ngan clutch leh slip...

pastu gred yg sama... sama tk utk motor ngan kereta? atau packaging jee lain?
cam mobil super synth gold tu aku tgk ada 1 liter ngan 4 liter...

camne ngan penggunaan X1R? ada sesapa penah try tk?
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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2008, 01:03:38 am »
dl kriss aku pakai minyak itam keta... Motul... abis satu botol 4 liter... motor tu dari baru beli smpai abis 4 liter...

sekali tu aku jln jauh pi PD... masa benti rehat... enjin hidup... aku tgk kt cermin mnyk itam tu... dia mcm cair giler... berbuih-buih laktu...cam air menggelegak
minyak itam kalau berbuih nih tk elok sbnrnya...

adakah ini disebabkan minyak tu sesuai utk kereta sahaja? sbb kriss pakai simbah kan? keta ada pam dia sendiri utk lube part2 dlm enjin...
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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2008, 03:26:01 pm »
mmg betol...kalo bebuih ni mmg tak elok...
percakapan dan tulisan anda mencerminkan diri anda siapakah anda sebenarnya...
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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #43 on: October 20, 2008, 05:12:02 pm »
utk pengetahuan motoris...

   
The Best Possible                 SAE 0W-60 (Very Expensive)

The Best Available                SAE 5W-50 (Possible only with Fully Synthetic Motor Oil)

    2nd Best                        SAE 5W-40      for Colder Climates (Synthetic or Blend)

                                                SAE 10W-50 for Warmer Climates (Synthetic or Blend)

          3rd Best                        SAE 5W-30 for Colder Climates

                                                SAE 10W-40 for Normal Climates

                                                SAE 20W-50 for Hot Climates**

Average                                  SAE 10W-30

                                                SAE 15W-40     for Heavy Duty Diesel Applications

Acceptable                             SAE 30        for Normal Climates, but not in Winter

                                                SAE 40        for Warmer Climates, but not in Winter

                                                SAE 50        for Hot Climates, but not in Winter

                                                SAE 5W-20 for sub-zero temperatures, Winter use only**

Legend: ** = unless use is prohibited by the engine manufacturer

Historical Facts

1877

C. Friedler and J.M. Crafts synthesize the first "synthetic" hydrocarbons.

1913

Friedrich Bergius in Germany develops Hydrogenation process for production of synthetic oil from coal dust

1921

Standard Oil in USA produces one barrel of synthetic oil from one ton of shale rock

1921

Friedrich Bergius in Germany develops commercial process for hydrogenation of coal to synthetic oil

1925

In Germany Franz Fisher and Hans Tropsch develop Synthetic Oil industrial production process

1926

I.G. Farben acquired the patent rights to the Bergius hydrogenation process for production of synthetic oil from coal

1927

I.G. Farben's Leuna works start synthetic oil production

1929

Standard Oil of Indiana makes the first attempt at commercial development of synthetic hydrocarbons

Many gallons of synthetic oil were made by polymerization of different olefins.

1930-34

Union Carbide and Carbon Corp develop and investigate the applications of water soluble Polyalkylene Glycol (PAG)

1931

Nobel Prize for Chemistry:
Friedrich Bergius & Carl Bosch

Invention and development of chemical high pressure methods (used for synthetic oil production)

1932

I.G. Farben investment into synthetic fuels production from coal

1936

Adolf Hitler in Germany starts Major synthetic fuels and oil program

1937

First Polyalphaolefins were synthesized

1939

Fischer-Tropsh process that used carbon monoxide and hydrogen to make synthetic oils and fuels was commercialized in Germany

1942-45

PAG synthetic oils used in fleets and commercial vehicles

1944-1954

10% of German supply of lubricating oil is "synthetic", made by using three different processes

1944

US Army aircraft operating in Alaska and Canada use PAG engine oils

1944-45

The idea of using colloidal solids in synthetic fluids for lubrication of the first jet engines is tested and researched in Germany

1946

National Carbide Company, Inc. markets the "First" commercial PAG engine oils

Prestone Motor Oil

1946

New York Power & Light Corp uses PAG engine oils in variety of their commercial vehicles.

1942-1955

Diester oils are used in turbine engines because Petroleum oil simply was inadequate to meet the demands of these engines.

1962

Texaco produces Synthetic Aircraft Turbine Oil

1962-66

U.S. Army experiences significant problems in operating vehicles and equipment in Alaska with
MIL-L-10295 Lubricating Oil.

1965

Mobil introduces fully synthetic grease

1966

First Syn! Synthetic Super Lubricants produced in Canada

1966

Motul introduces first semi-synthetic motor oil in France

1968

U.S. Army develops MIL-L-46167 specification, which can be satisfied only with PAO synthetic oil

1969

SynLube Company is formed in Vancouver, B.C. Canada ? it?s specialty the first "syn-sol".

1970?s

Arab Oil embargo prompts interest in "synthetic" oils

1971

Motul in France introduces first all-synthetic oil in Europe

1972

AMSOIL is formed and markets re-labeled MIL specification oils to motoring public through multi-level "pyramid" type organization.

1974

Mobil test markets Mobil 1 synthetic SAE 5W-20 "synthesized engine lubricant"

1976

Mobil 1 goes national in USA and changes the product description to "synthetic" motor oil

1980

Mobil introduces second generation synthetic motor oil Mobil 1 available as SAE 5W-30 and 15W-50

1982

SynLube in Canada produces first SAE 5W-50 all synthetic non-petroleum motor oil

1984

Agip in Italy introduces synthetic motor oil SAE 10W-50

1985

U.S. Army uses the MIL-L-46167 lubes in other than arctic conditions.

1986

Mobil only in Europe introduces Rally Formula Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil SAE 5W-50

1990

Quaker State introduces line of Synquest synthetic lubricants: grease NLGI No.2 GC-LB, motor oil SAE 5W-50 and gear oil SAE 75W-90

1990

SynLube opens sales office in Las Vegas, Nevada USA

1990

Chevron introduces synthetic motor oil

SAE 5W-30 and 5W-50

1992

Mobil introduces Advanced Formula Mobil 1 motor oil SAE 5W-30, 10W-30 and 15W-50

1992

Formulation of first SAE 0W-60 motor oil in Germany

1992

Valvoline introduces synthetic motor oil

SAE 5W-30, 10W-30 and 20W-50

1992

CASTROL introduces Syntec SAE 5W-50 motor oil based on PAO

1993

Texaco introduces Havoline Synthetic motor oil SAE 5W-40

1993

Pennzoil introduces Performax synthetic motor oil SAE 5W-50

1993

Sunoco introduces DynaTech synthetic engine oils SAE 20W-50 and 5W-40

1993

Sta-Lube launches marketing of synthetic gear oils and synthetic industrial grease

1994

Pep Boys starts selling synthetic motor oil under their own brand name

SAE 5W-30, 10W-30 and 20W-50

1994

Petrolon introduces synthetic motor oil under Slick 50 brand name

1994

Synthoil starts marketing of SAE 10W-30 synthetic motor oil

1992

CASTROL reformulates Syntec motor oils with API Group III (petroleum) base stock from Shell

1996

SynLube introduces SynLube? Lube-4-Life ?
"The FIRST oil you do NOT change" !

1999

Mobil introduces Mobil 1 "Tri-synthetic" version of their motor oil

1999

NAD rules that hydroisomerized base oils (Group III) can be classified as "synthetic oils"

1999

Exxon and Mobil merges to ExxonMobil.

2000

Mobil 1 introduces Synthetic-Blend motor oil

2002

Mobil 1 introduces Synthetic motor oil with SuperSyn.

2003

Mobil 1 introduces SAE 0W-30 RACING Synthetic motor oil.

2003

SynLube introduces SAE 0W-40 PZEV
SynLube? Lube-4-Life ? motor oil, specially formulated for low emission engines that are designed to use SAE 0W-20 or SAE 5W-20 motor oils. This new formulation is suitable for 15 year or 150,000 mile service without oil changes.

2005

Mobil 1 introduces Synthetic motor oil with 15,000 mile advertised service life.
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percakapan dan tulisan anda mencerminkan diri anda siapakah anda sebenarnya...
jgn menukar lorong ketika kona!!!awas jaga-jaga air licik lelehan dari lori sampah..licin wooo...

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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2008, 05:50:57 pm »
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dl kriss aku pakai minyak itam keta... Motul... abis satu botol 4 liter... motor tu dari baru beli smpai abis 4 liter...

sekali tu aku jln jauh pi PD... masa benti rehat... enjin hidup... aku tgk kt cermin mnyk itam tu... dia mcm cair giler... berbuih-buih laktu...cam air menggelegak
minyak itam kalau berbuih nih tk elok sbnrnya...

adakah ini disebabkan minyak tu sesuai utk kereta sahaja? sbb kriss pakai simbah kan? keta ada pam dia sendiri utk lube part2 dlm enjin...


kalu kiter tengok secara fizikal minyak itam adalah same fungsi,tetapi ianya khusus bagi satu kegunaan..maksudnye kalu motor gunelah minyak itam yang dibuat untuk motor.bukan ape kalu kite nilaikan semula enjin motor dengan enjin kereta banyak beza,enjin kereta menggunakan minyak itam sebagai pelincir silinder sahaja,minyak gearbox pulak menggunakan minyak yang berlainan dan clucth adalah kering..
minyak itam untuk kegunaan motor pulak memenuhi setiap ruang enjin termasuk silinder,gearbox dan clucth (bagi enjin berkuasa rendah)bermakna minyak motor dicipta memerlukan kajian yang lebih mendalam untuk menghasilkan molekul supaya menampung tahap kepanasan,tekanan dan pengaliran yang baik..kalu salah tolong betulkan..
wow..

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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2008, 05:59:33 pm »
rpm mutor lg tinggi drpd kete..means kenderaan konvensional bkn racing punya

rasanyer kureng seswai pki minyak engin kete kat muto

btolkan kl salah :D

"don't judge a book by it's cover.." selalu kita dgr..tp kl dah buku tu buku playboy xkan la cover depan dia letak cover buku kalkulus..mestilah cover depan tu buku playboy..btol x? x btol sila le betulkan ::)

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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2008, 10:42:53 pm »
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kalu kiter tengok secara fizikal minyak itam adalah same fungsi,tetapi ianya khusus bagi satu kegunaan..maksudnye kalu motor gunelah minyak itam yang dibuat untuk motor.bukan ape kalu kite nilaikan semula enjin motor dengan enjin kereta banyak beza,enjin kereta menggunakan minyak itam sebagai pelincir silinder sahaja,minyak gearbox pulak menggunakan minyak yang berlainan dan clucth adalah kering..
minyak itam untuk kegunaan motor pulak memenuhi setiap ruang enjin termasuk silinder,gearbox dan clucth (bagi enjin berkuasa rendah)bermakna minyak motor dicipta memerlukan kajian yang lebih mendalam untuk menghasilkan molekul supaya menampung tahap kepanasan,tekanan dan pengaliran yang baik..kalu salah tolong betulkan..

disokong...  :Dhehehee...

tp ni nk mntk pendapat...

mobil supersyn (gold pek tu...) ada pek 1liter ngan 4liter...
agak2 korg ok tk pakai kat moto... lg2 kt gaban aku...
minyak ni jee paling syok penah aku pakai kt gaban aku... gear smooth..
shell vsx aku pakai 2 minggu dh keras gearbox...

tp malangnya gaban aku jem time guna mnyk ni pulok...
tp sbb dkt 3bln dh aku tk tukar... gear smooth pnya pasal...  ;D ampeh
dlm 3 bln tu mmg aku rembat jln jauh selalu... tp rasanya tk smpai 5000km pun...

agak2 korg cemana ek? mnyk ni sesuai tk utk motor?
aku rela berhabis jnji gaban aku best...  :P hehee
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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2008, 11:13:44 pm »
info tambahan...

ms gaban aku jem tuh... primary drive gear dia patah...
cemana leh patah aa? suma org tuduh aku gigit gear tu wooo  >:( ampeh tull...

ni pic dia...

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agak2 korg penggunaan 4t fully synth ni menjadi penyumbang kepada patahnya primary drive gear gaban aku ke??

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demam woo... 2 bln cari bru dpt part tu...
suma2 sekali dkt 6bln gak ler gaban aku berehat...
minggu dpn br dijangka boleh ditunggang semula...
kalo tangkap coil kee bnda2 lain kee... mmg pakinson lerr...
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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2008, 11:56:54 pm »
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kalu kiter tengok secara fizikal minyak itam adalah same fungsi,tetapi ianya khusus bagi satu kegunaan..maksudnye kalu motor gunelah minyak itam yang dibuat untuk motor.bukan ape kalu kite nilaikan semula enjin motor dengan enjin kereta banyak beza,enjin kereta menggunakan minyak itam sebagai pelincir silinder sahaja,minyak gearbox pulak menggunakan minyak yang berlainan dan clucth adalah kering..
minyak itam untuk kegunaan motor pulak memenuhi setiap ruang enjin termasuk silinder,gearbox dan clucth (bagi enjin berkuasa rendah)bermakna minyak motor dicipta memerlukan kajian yang lebih mendalam untuk menghasilkan molekul supaya menampung tahap kepanasan,tekanan dan pengaliran yang baik..kalu salah tolong betulkan..
yee betool tu..
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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2008, 12:44:35 am »
klau utk mesin game..aku pkai ATF je sebagai minyak itam..ATF bgus sgt2 utk clutch..tpi xberape bgus utk piston dn block..
xdi galakkan penggunaan ATF sebagai minyak itam,bkn sbb calernye merah tau..
xsihat utk block ngn piston..

mcm bro karipapas tu..aku penah ke..gear 2 aku patah dlm 3 gigi,mangkuk clutch patah setengah..

honda makanan aku,yamaha minuman aku..modenas pule sgt menjengkelkn aku..

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« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2008, 02:00:19 am »
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klau utk mesin game..aku pkai ATF je sebagai minyak itam..ATF bgus sgt2 utk clutch..tpi xberape bgus utk piston dn block..
xdi galakkan penggunaan ATF sebagai minyak itam,bkn sbb calernye merah tau..
xsihat utk block ngn piston..

mcm bro karipapas tu..aku penah ke..gear 2 aku patah dlm 3 gigi,mangkuk clutch patah setengah..
huhu
atf ni minyak pe pink..
cbe ko trgkn...
gg gear  ptah..
ak pun nh tgk..
lg trk..
1 set gear lingkup..

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« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2008, 02:01:44 am »
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klau utk mesin game..aku pkai ATF je sebagai minyak itam..ATF bgus sgt2 utk clutch..tpi xberape bgus utk piston dn block..
xdi galakkan penggunaan ATF sebagai minyak itam,bkn sbb calernye merah tau..
xsihat utk block ngn piston..

mcm bro karipapas tu..aku penah ke..gear 2 aku patah dlm 3 gigi,mangkuk clutch patah setengah..

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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2008, 02:07:04 am »
automatic transmission fluid T-III,xpun T-IV..minyak gearbox auto kete..
system clutch kete auto kn sme ngn motor..ade friction plate,ade disc..
utk clutch sedap la..
seround 2 mmg berantu la..

honda makanan aku,yamaha minuman aku..modenas pule sgt menjengkelkn aku..

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« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2008, 02:14:09 am »
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automatic transmission fluid T-III,xpun T-IV..minyak gearbox auto kete..
system clutch kete auto kn sme ngn motor..ade friction plate,ade disc..
utk clutch sedap la..
seround 2 mmg berantu la..
oo
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sme cam 3 tutup le
skali je
klo 2..
abis ;D ;D

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« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2008, 02:17:32 am »
lebey kurng la..
idea tu aku dpt dri gurauan/cite tipu yg aku xtau kesahihannye dri seorg senior mse keje toyota dulu..
die ckp motor beliau pkai minyak atf je..
lalu aku dgn sengalnye test kt motor projek,moto projek tu mmg nk kena overhaul..alang2 tu test la dulu..
ternyata terase sedap pda clutch..tapi lepas 2-3 round hentam2 lenjam,dh bunyi mcm kilang besi..

honda makanan aku,yamaha minuman aku..modenas pule sgt menjengkelkn aku..

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« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2008, 02:04:37 am »
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klau utk mesin game..aku pkai ATF je sebagai minyak itam..ATF bgus sgt2 utk clutch..tpi xberape bgus utk piston dn block..
xdi galakkan penggunaan ATF sebagai minyak itam,bkn sbb calernye merah tau..
xsihat utk block ngn piston..

mcm bro karipapas tu..aku penah ke..gear 2 aku patah dlm 3 gigi,mangkuk clutch patah setengah..

pastu ko demam bape hari? wakaka  :D

tp aku pnya tu bkn kt gearbox kut...
dia duk blh kanan...
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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2008, 03:00:13 am »
hehe3,mne ade demam..bkn motor aku,motor projek je..huhu3..

honda makanan aku,yamaha minuman aku..modenas pule sgt menjengkelkn aku..

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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2009, 04:00:49 pm »
try la guna Maxoil..  Konpem puashati..

Kalu korang pakai 3 kali then x rasa ape2 perbezaan, lupakan Maxoil..

Pegi la pakai balik brand lama korang..

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Maxoil Power!!

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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2009, 09:35:02 pm »
Aku pakai AGIP ;D
"mess with the best die like the rest"

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Re: Kenali MINYAK PELINCIR (Engine Oil) Anda..
« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2009, 02:57:55 pm »
as...kum
minyak itam motul 3100 10-40w gold bagus ke
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